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Hab heute mein drittes Ciao geholt :wheeeha:.

Dieses mal kein Mofa sondern ein deutsches Moped Piaggio 40V von 69 mit Vario, 19Zoll und kleinem Tankdeckel in schönem Blu. War laut Nummernschild das letzte mal 86 zugelassen. Leider fehlen ein paar Teile und es wurde schön mit Pinsel und Hammerschlagfarbe bepinselt :wallbash:
Hab dann gleich mal den Motor getestet, sprang ohne Probleme an und lief sauber. 
Hab dann noch an ein paar Stellen probiert den Lack frei zu legen und ich muss sagen das sieht schon ganz gut aus, mehr dazu im O-Lack Topic :drool:.

Jetzt zu meinen eigentlichen Fragen.

Hinten fehlt leider die Felge und das Getriebe, welches war denn da original verbaut? Ich denke eine Felge mit Keilnut, genau so wie das Getriebe mit Keilnut. Welche Übersetzung hat das Getriebe denn original? Vielleicht kann mir da ja jemand helfen? 
danke schon mal und schöne Grüße 

Franky :cheers:

 

 

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Schönes Moped hast Du da bekommen, Franky. Ich kann morgen mal nachsehen, welches Getriebe da rein kommt. Ja, es ist ein Keilnutgetriebe und Du brauchst die passende, wahrscheinlich 32 Loch Felge, dazu. In Verbindung mit dem wohl auch fehlenden Variodeckel (Seitenverkleidung) ein kleines Vermögen.  

Nichts desto Trotz ne geile Karre :inlove:

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vor 7 Stunden hat supasoni folgendes von sich gegeben:

Schönes Moped hast Du da bekommen, Franky. Ich kann morgen mal nachsehen, welches Getriebe da rein kommt. Ja, es ist ein Keilnutgetriebe und Du brauchst die passende, wahrscheinlich 32 Loch Felge, dazu. In Verbindung mit dem wohl auch fehlenden Variodeckel (Seitenverkleidung) ein kleines Vermögen.  

Nichts desto Trotz ne geile Karre :inlove:

Vielen Dank, das wäre wirklich sehr nett wenn du mir die Übersetzung raussuchen könntest :cheers:.

Vielleicht könntest du mir auch ein paar Bilder machen wie das alles zusammengabaut ist hinten?

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vor 10 Minuten hat supasoni folgendes von sich gegeben:

@Franky0815

Bei mir ist ein 12er Getriebe verbaut. Weiß jetzt aber nicht,  ob das Standardmäßig drin ist. Beste Grüße 

Danke, wie schnell geht deins denn? Ich hätte auch ein 12er in Aussicht, dann werd ich das kaufen.

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Danke, dann muss ich wohl auf die Suche gehen und mir nach und nach die Teile zusammensuchen. Wird bestimmt nicht so einfach :whistling:.
Cool, ja mei, solang der Rahmen selbst original ist, den Rest kann man tauschen wenn’s ist :thumbsup:.

sollte ich noch fragen haben darf ich mich mal melden?

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vor 12 Minuten hat Franky0815 folgendes von sich gegeben:

 

sollte ich noch fragen haben darf ich mich mal melden?

Na klar, wenn ich helfen kann gerne. Da gibts hier aber jede Menge Leute, die sehr viel mehr Ahnung haben als ich :satisfied:

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Das ist super! Wird schon mit der Suche. Bei mir hats bissl über ein halbes Jahr gedauert. Bei Bedarf kann ich dir auch nen Link schicken,  wo man nagelneue 32 Loch Felgenringe kaufen kann. 

Guten Rutsch allen Piaggio Freaks hier!

:cheers:

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Am 31.12.2020 um 10:12 hat Franky0815 folgendes von sich gegeben:

@supasoni danke, das hab ich auch schon gesehen, ist wirklich sehr teuer.

Hab gestern exakt das gleich gekauft, laut Verkäufer ca. 1:12 das hat rund 100 weniger gekostet, ich hoffe das ist brauchbar :-D

 

In einer deutschen 19"-40V von '69 müsste eigentlich ein 1:14 Variogetriebe mit Keilnut drin sein. Aber fahr ruhig das 12er (das vermutlich ein 12,25er sein wird), das läuft auch mit sonst unveränderter Originaltechnik sehr schön.

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Dichter als wie Goethe:-D Aber der Sprühlack geht mit Aceton super runter... Mal wieder ne Vergleichsfrage: Ich brauch für die Super Bravo mit Vario nen 63er Zylinder samt Kopf. Hat jemand zufällig die Steuerzeiten von Polini und Malossi im Vergleich zum DR? Bei Vario kann der ja durchaus etwas schärfer sein...

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vor 19 Stunden hat ronin folgendes von sich gegeben:

Dichter als wie Goethe:-D Aber der Sprühlack geht mit Aceton super runter... Mal wieder ne Vergleichsfrage: Ich brauch für die Super Bravo mit Vario nen 63er Zylinder samt Kopf. Hat jemand zufällig die Steuerzeiten von Polini und Malossi im Vergleich zum DR? Bei Vario kann der ja durchaus etwas schärfer sein...

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Die vermeintlich „schärferen steuerzeiten“ gelten für den öffnungswinkel der KuWe.

man sagt, dass 180-185 grad für Mono und bis 190 grad für vario passend ist. Bei vario kann man „untenrum“ auf etwas Drehmoment verzichten und die Anfahrdrehzahl erhöhen.

 

Eine Übersicht der SZ für alle gängigen Zylinder wäre wirklich mal eine super Sache.

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@John Wayne Ich meinte tatsächlich die Steuerzeiten von Auslass und Überströmern. Wenn die schärfer werden, lässt du ja untenrum auch Drehmoment liegen...

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Mal eine Frage, das Ciao der 1.Serie hat hinten am Getriebe M8 Schrauben zur Befestigung und auch die Löcher im Rahmen sind nur so groß das 8er Schrauben passen, aufbohren will ich nicht. Die neueren Getriebe haben M10. 
Ich habe eine komplettes Variogetriebe mit M10 Gewinden und ein leeres Gehäuse mit M8 Gewinden. 
Passen die Innereien bei allen Getrieben bzw. Gehäusen untereinander 1:1 egal ob mit Vario oder ohne und auch Baujahrunabhängig? 

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nö, gehäuse sind unterschiedlich. sprich vario passt nicht in mono und umgekehrt. ob zwischen vario m8 und m10 ein unterschied ist  kann ich dir nicht sagen 

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vor 4 Minuten hat goeksus folgendes von sich gegeben:

nö, gehäuse sind unterschiedlich. sprich vario passt nicht in mono und umgekehrt. ob zwischen vario m8 und m10 ein unterschied ist  kann ich dir nicht sagen 

Okay danke, wo liegen denn die unterschiede? 

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Hallo Zusammen,

ich hab gefühlt den großteil der 168 Seiten hier schon gelesen und mittlerweile auch einen Account erstellt, der nur noch auf seine Freigabe wartet.

Ich bin erst seit Anfang 2020 unter den Ciao-Schraubern, aber mittlerweile haben sich doch einige Mopeds angesammelt.
Kurze Zeit habe ich das Piaggio-Mofa-Technik Forum noch miterlebt und bin froh hier wieder ein tolles Forum mit jede Menge Mofa-Verrückten Leuten gefunden zu haben.

Auf dem Foto unten die neuste Errungenschaft von meinem Kumpel und mir. Jeder eine Boxer 2 aus Italien.
Nachdem wir bisher hauptsächlich mit originalen Setups gebastelt haben wird es jetzt mal Zeit etwas größeres anzugehen.

In letzter Zeit haben sich da bei mir auch einige Fragen zum Thema angesammelt die ich hier einfach mal in die Runde stelle:


-Die Boxer würden wir gerne mit etwas mehr Leistung ausstatten. Was aber bleiben soll ist der originale Auspuff. Außerdem sollte das Setup auch möglichst langlebig sein. Für den Sommer haben wir auch eine kleine Tour geplant etc. Ziel der Sache ist auch nicht das Moped zur Rennmaschine zu machen, sondern lediglich mit mehr Kraft fahren zu können. Wenn sie 60 läuft reicht das schon völlig. Macht hier ein Speedengine mit 46mm Polini Sinn ? Oder läuft das mit dem Auspuff nicht ? Oder ist der Unterschied bei dem Auspuff zum 43mm so gering dass sich das SE nicht lohnt?
(6.5 Mono Getriebe ist verbaut und soll auch nicht durch Vario ersetzt werden - 13er Vergaser und Malossi Filter kommen noch dazu)


- Wie ist das jetzt mit den Kurbelwellen - habe hier im Forum gelesen dass es keine "mofa- oder Moped-KW" gibt - sind die also alle gleich ? Und ist ein 12-Kolbenbolzen ein Nachteil ? Dann würde ich mich mal nach einer gebrauchten Welle mit 10er Kobo umsehen, habe nur zwei 12er hier..


Ist jetzt doch mehr Text geworden als geplant aber ich hoffe es hat dennoch jemand gelesen und einige meiner Fragen können beantwortet werden.

Vielen Dank euch schonmal!BOXERS.jpg

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hätte gleich mal ein paar fragen,

 

wo bezieht man am besten teile her?

stossdämpfer zb

und gibts die pirelli ml14 noch?

sitzbank, ich glaub da hab ich pech, oder?

aufkleber bzw deko seite hinten?

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