Hi Matzmann
thank you for your reply.
this is very good to know, here in Italy finding a Vespa with papers and plate, only papers or only frame numbers change a lot in terms of price.
this is again because if you can't register a new vespa by yourself, you can only restore an old registration
I mean in italy we have the PRA (basically veycles public register), if you do not want to pay taxes on your vespa you have to delete it from the register but this means that you have trashed it or you have exported it. for the law a veycle cannot exist if not registered. if you want then to re-register an old veycle you need plate and papaerworks to find which was the old registration and restore it. you can in some cases recover the old registration through the hystorical association if you don't have papers but this means restore the vespa to the original status (color, details, engine) and no tuning :(
all this to say that if we anly need papers and frame number could be easy and cheap to find vespa's in Italy becuse probably they can't be restored and re-registered in this country.